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AltheaRose |
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January 24, 2013 07:07:56pm |
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And the winners are ... |
Lobster, Grendel and Jeff Kaplan win in the Babes in Arms Category for being 14 at their first shows.
Cosmic Chuck wins in the Fogie Category for being 29.
There were a few people I don't think we've heard from. Probably because they were watching Cheers. But it seems almost everyone was below 20. High school or early college age.
Interesting how that continued to be the case - rite of passage, etc -- as the band got older and creakier. I don't think there's any other band that drew hordes of passionate young fans (or gullible young minds) decades past its own prime. Of course, music itself doesn't hold that same place in the culture anymore, so while rock concerts themselves used to be a rite of passage (and I suppose the GD served as a kind of alternative rite of passage for the counterculturally minded), I have no idea what today's equivalent is. Maybe they've just moved from seeking IT to seeking to be IT millionaires. (Bad joke.)
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January 25, 2013 11:24:14am |
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Oh I should have gotten in on this. I was 8.
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January 25, 2013 08:26:06pm |
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Really? How did you end up at a show at 8? And when?
I liked the idea of little kids at shows in a vague kind of way -- when Jerry died, I was pregnant, and weirdly, one thought that crossed my mind is that it was so sad I could never dance with my kid at a show (although I hadn't really seen any shows for years by then) -- but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have actually done that. Not my style at all in reality. I'd have hired a babysitter.
What did you think of it?
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January 25, 2013 09:16:58pm |
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It's one of my favorite recordings (6-25-85), but I have no recollection of that one.
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January 25, 2013 09:48:37pm |
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You were 8 at that show?!? How did you end up there? That's so funny, next you're going to say you lived around Coventry and it will turn out I babysat you :-)
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January 25, 2013 07:56:31am |
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The memories. Crowd had the NFA chant started and the band was still on stage. Management turned the house lights on to give them the boot so the quickly went into Love Light.
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January 25, 2013 10:29:11am |
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Not Fade Away... |
It wasn't my first show, but the first time that I heard Not Fade Away was at a show and it was amazing! It was indoors and the chant and clapping had a great echo throughout the building. It was only my fourth GD show and I didn't know that it was a thing people did, and thought that it just happened naturally at that show. LOL
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January 24, 2013 07:05:24pm |
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They gave us themselves on stage, what more can we do but to accept IT as IT was and had become. True when I was getting into them live I knew there was not going to be a Dark Star every night, but I was in the room with the dudes who played it. Books, threads, dreams cannot fully describe the journey with the Grateful Dead.
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January 24, 2013 07:20:58pm |
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LOL, so in '67 we get shirtless Phil, in '94 we get Jerry's knees and matching BobWear. Maybe that's why Phil is grinning in the third jpg. He sees what the drummers are wearing.
Seriously, that '94 show is so great, and so is Jerry's work with Grisman; I really wish they'd just taken an acoustic break, ideally a really long one. I guess it just wasn't going to happen at that point, with the huge crowds/venues and all the demand.
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January 24, 2013 07:30:53pm |
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http://archive.org/post/150756/first-showI'm not sure I buy your premise that music doesn't hold the same place in the culture anymore as I spend many nights each week around high school kids through folks in their late 20's and music is every bit as central and integral to their lives as it has been for me and they constantly turn me on to good stuff. I'm just the creepy old man with the stories about the "old" days...
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January 24, 2013 07:37:03pm |
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Oh, I have absolutely zero doubt that there are lots of young people for whom music is central and who are aware of very cool new stuff. I'm talking about its place in the general mainstream culture. It was a generational and identity "definer," and I just don't think it is anymore in the same way. That's not a statement about "the good old days," just an observation of cultural change.
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January 24, 2013 07:27:26pm |
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Today's equivalent? Sadly, Justin Minaj and Nicki Bieber (sic), or whatever non-melodic garbage they're being frighteningly force-fed. Actually, there is a lot of good new music out there but the US media avoids it for the most part.
What IS heartening is that many many young people are re-discovering what went on back in the day thanks to YouTube,IA, and independent internet radio, etc.
I can't help thinking we are on the verge of a new wave of IT music.
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January 24, 2013 07:48:52pm |
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I kind of think that too. But I think that's partly for the same reason that it's NOT as "central" now: it's gotten fragmented, with a gazillion niche markets that are almost under the radar, so in part you have to be hip to the digital world to hear about it (which I'm definitely not but young people definitely are, which enables it to be "theirs.") That makes it rather underground and keeps the fogies and the Bieberheads out. Underground helps stuff to thrive. Plus there's a lot of roots music, and roots is where you get good energy from. Just ask the GOGD.
But I'm babbling beyond my knowledge level. Still, if the media avoids the music, that's probably healthy growing conditions ...
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January 25, 2013 01:17:12pm |
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There is a lot of good music being listened to by the young (and not so young), butI guess few downloads come with notes and artwork so new technology seems to make it more disposable.
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January 25, 2013 01:20:39pm |
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Wait. Did you just say Bieberheads?
>>>faint<<< . Choke on my own vomit and pee on myself...
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January 24, 2013 08:07:28pm |
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The winners are ... all of us here, and all who may end up here.
There is much good music out there today, mainstream does miss most of it. Underground/college stations, web stations, and other digital avenues more than fill that void. Word of mouth still works nicely, as evidenced on the archive.
In that spirit I recommend what I feel to be a great radio station, WMSE. It is the station of the Milwaukee School of Engineering. Here is the url,
http://www.wmse.org/, or if local 91.7 on the FM dial.
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